TAARP - Appendix E - Letter to the Miami Valley Astronomical Society

E 2.6 Letter to the Miami Valley Astronomical Society

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November 14, 1994
To: The Miami Valley Astronomical Society (MVAS), Dayton, Ohio
Dr. Jim Grigsby, Prof. of Physics & Astronomy at Wittenberg University, Springfield, Ohio
Select Administrative and Faculty Members of Various Institutions of Higher Learning
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From: Fred E. Howard III
2124 Stocker Dr., Apt. 3
Kettering, OH 45429
(513) 298-6719
Subject: Science and Mysticism
Ref: Professor Grigsby's Lecture at the MVAS 11 Nov 94 General Meeting Concerning the Scientific Method. He Presented His Work on the Formulation of Mathematical Models for the Chemical Composition of Certain Star Types as an Example of the Scientific Method.

1.      At the 11 Nov 94 MVAS General Meeting, three people challenged my comments on the relationship between Eastern Mysticism and the central concepts of some of the most renown modem Physicists and Mathematicians. One of these people was Professor Grigsby. The other two are members of the MVAS.

2.      I now challenge these three individuals to a $3,000 debate. I will put $3,000 in the pot and each of them will put $1,000 in the pot. I will debate the three of them at the same time in front of the MVAS. The MVAS, by majority vote, will then decide who is the winner of the debate. Either I win, and I take the $6,000 pot, or they win and they take the $6,000 pot.

3.      Here is exactly what we will debate:

  1. Whether or not the basic concepts of numerous, modern, world-class Physicists and Mathematicians regarding the primary principles of the Universe, including matter, time, energy, and space, are amazingly similar to the basic concepts of Eastern Mysticism.
  2. Whether or not the basic concepts of Eastern and Western Mysticism have been key elements in the development of scientific thought in the Western World at least since the times of Socrates, Plato, Pythagoras, and Aristotle.
  3. Whether or not Fritjof Capra in his book "The Tao of Physics" had as his main objective the demonstration of close parallels between Eastern Mysticism and key concepts of modern Physics/Mathematics.

I will argue the affirmative case for a. through c., and the other three gentlemen will argue the negative case.

4.      Here is how all of this arose. At the 11 Nov 84 General Meeting, Professor Grigsby said that science was in ill repute amongst the Liberal Arts people. I asked why. He said something in response, and then I countered by alluding to the fact that Fritjof Capra in "The Tao of Physics" and Fred Alan Wolf in "The Dreaming Universe" demonstrate close parallels between Eastern Mysticism and modern concepts in Physics/Mathematics. Professor Grigsby then countered with something to the effect that Mysticism and Science have nothing to do with each other.

At this time, one of the other gentlemen that I am challenging to debate chimed in by saying (in a glib, arrogant, mocking tone of voice) that Capra never said what I claimed he said in his book and that he, Capra, had written something subsequent to "The Tao of Physics" in which he addressed the fact that many people had misunderstood "The Tao of Physics" in the same sense that I had. Another gentlemen (who I am not challenging to debate) added his two cents worth by saying that Capra was a newspaper man. This is incorrect. I think the latter gentlemen was referring to Arthur Koestler, who indeed was a newspaper man, and who has written on the subject Capra discussed in "The Tao of Physics".

At the end of the General Meeting, I had a very short talk with Professor Grigsby. I asked him how much he had studied about Mysticism. He said that he had not studied it at all, and that it did not interest him in the least. I then asked him how he could reach a scientific conclusion about something of which he knew nothing. I cannot remember exactly what he said at this time, but it reminded me of the kinds of things Christian Fundamentalists say when you try to have an intelligent conversation with them about evolution. Also, Professor Grigsby was starting to get emotional just like the Christian Fundamentalists do when their rational intellect is brought into stark contact with absurdities that they have cautiously stashed away in their unconscious, and which have consequently festered into putrid cesspools. It would be very beneficial to mankind if the horrendous quantity of psychic overhead that is required for their minds to keep the cesspools separated from the analytical intellects could be freed up for productive work.

Another member of the MVAS, who had been listening to Professor Grigsby and me talk, and who is one of the three people that I am challenging to debate, said that the thing that really counts is that Science has done such an outstanding job for so long without any help from Mysticism.

Professor Grigsby and the Two Gentlemen, who I am challenging to a debate, are not only dead nuts wrong, but they are being completely unscientific in the sense that they are reaching hard decisions on an issue they are completely ignorant about.

Science is in disrepute amongst the Liberal Arts people exactly and expressly because of close-minded, bigoted, and hypocritical "Scientists" like Professor Grigsby and the "Two Gentlemen", who only apply scientific reasoning to subjects they are interested in and irrationally criticize subjects that they are ignorant of, uninterested in, and/or have a virulent and instinctual distaste for.

5.      I predict that Professor Grigsby and the Two Gentlemen will not accept my challenge. They will have every excuse imaginable, but what will really lie at the roots of their refusal is that, after they read this letter, they will know that they will be up against someone who is both a Scientist and a student of Mysticism. I also predict that none of them will even be man enough (or should I say Scientist enough) to respond to this letter in any form whatsoever. (By the way, I have a BS in Physics from the Georgia Institute of Technology. I have been an Aerospace professional for 20 years working in electronic countermeasures and pattern recognition. I had the great, good gift to be able to study Comparative Religion, Magick, Mysticism, Jungian Psychology, and Mythology under the guidance of Mr. Cecil Gwinn, who was one of the most creative Physicists ever to be employed by the Air Force Avionics Laboratory. He was a leader in the early years of Bionics Research at Wright-Patterson AFB. He was a colleague of Jack Steele, who coined the word "Bionics", which comes from "BION" = Life and "IC" = Like.)

6.      The following are quotations from the cover and the text of Capra's "The Tao of Physics" - subtitled "An Exploration of the Parallels Between Modern Physics and Eastern Mysticism". From the back cover:

From the text:

7.      For in-depth, scientific, and detailed information on the interminable relationship between Science, Magick, and Mysticism (Eastern and Western), see: "Magick In Theory and Practice" and "The Book of Thoth" by Aleister Crowley. Also, see "Psychology and Alchemy" and "Alchemical Studies" by Carl Jung. The student who is really interested in pursuing a comprehensive study of the totality of the Universe should also read such works as:

Note: Aleister Crowley is to the totality of human knowledge as Albert Einstein is to Physics, Carl Jung is to Psychology, William Shakespeare is to English Literature, Joseph Campbell and James G. Frazer are to Comparative Religion, etc., etc.

8.      In closing, let me say that the technical aspect of Dr. Grigsby's lecture was very interesting. He is obviously a very intelligent being with in-depth knowledge of Physics and Astronomy. He delivers a clear, lively, and informative technical lecture. Also let me say that if I have erred in the exact details of what the Professor and the "Two Gentleman" said at the 11 Nov General Meeting, I do apologize, but one thing is indisputable. They challenged me for suggesting a close parallel between Eastern Mysticism and some of the salient thoughts of numerous, modern, world-class Physicists and Mathematicians. In this challenge, their remarks were not only dead wrong, but also were derived unscientifically in that the three of them know very little, if anything at all, about Mysticism, Eastern or Western. In order to regain my dignity vis-a-vis such an august body as the MVAS, I request the aid of the MVAS membership in my attempt to inspire Professor Grigsby and "the Two Gentlemen" to a debate in which the MVAS members will be judge and jury as to who is more scientific from a total perspective, me or Professor Grigsby and the "Two Gentlemen" . I am very good at spotting the bigoted "Scientist" because I used to be one until Mr. Cecil Gwinn opened my eyes. We must learn to appreciate the fact that we have a dual hemispherical brain. The bigoted "Scientist" is only aware of and interested in the left hemispherical functions related to strict rationality, cause and effect, and mechanistic phenomena. The bigoted "Scientist" must learn how to exercise and appreciate the right hemispherical functions of intuition and artistic flow.

9.      "A Fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." - Sir Winston Churchill

(Signed) Fred Howard